Thoughts on version 11

mike

I was reading the roadmap for version 11 in more detail this weekend and if they are able to provide all the features listed there it will be a gigantic update. The delay is understandable as the update is huge. This will definitely push enhance email to another level.

One small thing was listed there caught my attention is:

Website generated emails are now sent from the local MTA rather than being forwarded to the assigned email server for the website. This does not require the email role to be installed on the web server.

i believe this is not a great idea as sometimes web servers are placed where no email activity is allowed(ports closed) or the IP of the web server has an no reputation at all. This could cause some issues.

Besides that this update is awesome !

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ivansalloum

mike I think it is designed for people using a smart host. It is not about using your server's public IP to send emails, I mean the server itself. You should use a smart host for this feature. This update only separates the use of a smart host for transactional emails from having to install the email role only for this.

xyzulu

mike i believe this is not a great idea as sometimes web servers are placed where no email activity is allowed(ports closed)

Some relevant posts connected to this here: https://community.enhance.com/d/1603-email-from-webserver/5

Regarding v11.. it does look big.. I just wish control panel replication was given more priority than some of these issues being rolled out in v11, BUT I can see that if you use Enhance for email (we don't) some of these features are long waited for.

mike

ivansalloum so the local MTA will forward to the smart host if its configured. so ppl who use smart host exclusively are not required to assign an email role for their websites.

and if you have email role assigned for the website the emails should be sent from there. Great stuff!

ecknz

I am looking forward to - Ability to persistently edit most email server config (hope this includes Rspamd)
Hopefully Fixes to whitelist/blacklist email functionality will block by @domain.com instead of just email addresses

mike

ecknz

Hopefully Fixes to whitelist/blacklist email functionality will block by @domain.com instead of just email addresses

yeah its unclear what are the fixes or improvements. but this should definitely be done. its basic stuff for filtering.

We usually block the EHLO domain also. blocks a lot of crap !

mike

I believe we also need a neat way to check incoming/outgoing emails rather digging inside email logs. I believe rspamd has a UI for that. We should be able custom config that to make it work.

Its not bad actually. Tried it once on Direct admin and it used to save us a lot of time.

DracoBlue

Version 11.0.0 will likely be released later this week.

josedieguez

DracoBlue hope so, i have visited the release notes like 10 times a day.

we need to be able more control over mail, before placing more clients, specially who uses smarthost like us, or else the bill may go to the sky in a spam case.

ecknz

Hopefully, it will arrive soon.
It's probably better to remove the date in the roadmap and only have the month.

I moved ahead with migration from DA as the email updates would be a few days away but now its around 14 days more. Oh well but 100% free from DA now.

kyzoeadmin

ecknz how many sites did you move and did you follow a specific workflow. We need to move several 1000’s of da accounts so I am curious

mike

kyzoeadmin how did you budget plan your move of 1000’s of accounts to enhance?

ecknz

@kyzoeadmin only around 35 (I'm not a hosting provider) did it manually at each end, mix of production ecommerce sites and other projects in the works.

For me it was easiest to spin up a couple of temporary VPS and install the rolls needed, I reloaded the old servers with the roles after a few days and moved the sites back to them through Enhance as I needed to keep the IP's for email servers (kept same names).

For DNS I used Cloudflare without proxy enabled or other features which enabled the resolving time to be under 1 hour.

It might be easier for you to try a staggered migration using one of the 2 panels currently available with importers.

I have not used cpanel since around 2011 when I was a hosting provider so can't comment on their importer from DA, Plesk I used on one server for a while last year and the import was good but then I decided against it because they had another price rise and kept with DA a bit longer.

I am still thinking of going back to Mailcow as the primary MX, at least until the email aspect of is more configurable and set Enhance to the backup MX.