Backup server - 10 Gbps providers? - Enhance Control Panel

Backup server - 10 Gbps providers?

FireLizard

InterServer's storage VPS looks great but I intend to use InterServer for my web/DB servers. I know I can place the storage VPS in a different datacenter but I would prefer to use a different provider altogether.

I want 10 Gbps because my customers tend to have larger storage needs and I don't want a full server restore to take forever. I am aware of Hetzner's Storage Box but their port speed is 1 Gbps, not 10 Gbps. GreenCloud specs are good but a price of $80 per YEAR for 20 TB and 10 Gbps is very suspicious.

Looking for a solution that is 10 Gbps with at least 10 TB storage. Or any thoughts about using multiple Backup role servers. Is that even possible?

SharedGrid

You couldn't use Hetzner's storage box either way because the backup system utilises hard links and it's not possible over NFS.

You could look at a Hetzner cloud VM with a block storage volume attached which would cost €450 a month alone. There's also Netcup with a similar setup which will be €98 per month for 8TB.

Another option is to look for a storage VPS where the provider will allow you to setup the OS/partition the disk so you have a separate backup partition.

Yes, it's possible to use multiple backup role servers, however I think it would require some management from your side ensuring your websites are balanced across the different backup servers.

You also have the option of S3 backups but these aren't incremental.

FireLizard

cPFence That would be nice to avoid many servers pounding a single backup server. I don't see any information about how using multiple servers with the Backup role works.

SharedGrid mentioned "I think it would require some management from your side ensuring your websites are balanced across the different backup servers." I suppose the accounts would not be distributed evenly, automatically?

Fill the first backup server up then deploy a second and make that default for new sites? Repeat.

FireLizard

UPDATE: GreenCloud is 2 TB not 20 TB, so maybe not suspicious.

FireLizard

I'll be putting 50 sites that are about 10 GB each on my web/DB servers. That's possibly up to 600 GB of storage. I figured a restore at 10 Gbps would take less than 30 minutes but at 1 Gbps would take possibly hours. Disaster recovery is what I'm working out right now.

cPFence

FireLizard

Check out AlphaVPS for their 10GB connection storage VPS:
https://alphavps.com/storage-vps.html

FireLizard

cPFence They look good but I'm hoping for a 10 TB or greater solution.

Seeing if IOFlood can build me a dedi with their 14 TB drive on 10 Gbps. Seems like I might need to take a custom dedi route here. Anybody using a dedi with 10 TB or more storage?

Assuming with Enhance the storage needs to be a single drive so none of the (6x 2 TB drive stuff). Need a big whoppin' SATA.

Or is not such a bad idea to have my web/db and storage server with the same company (InterServer) in different DC's)? Would be backing up the backups anyway, maybe to IOFlood.

cPFence

FireLizard They look good but I'm hoping for a 10 TB or greater solution.

In our experience, using several storage VPSs tends to give better overall performance than a single dedi with a huge SATA drive. But your mileage may vary, always test to see what works best for your setup.

JohnB

FireLizard Seeing if IOFlood can build me a dedi with their 14 TB drive on 10 Gbps.

Can't go wrong with IOFLOOD.

I wouldn't put backups on the same provider that you use for web/db. Provider failures/account suspension (accidental or otherwise) happen. This actually happens and you can find cases, it doesn't only happen to people breaking TOS.

cPFence

FireLizard

No, it’s ridiculously easy with Enhance. Just go to the Websites page, select a few sites, click "Move Server," choose your backup server, and hit Next. Works best when you're just getting started, avoid this if you already have large backups in place to prevent transfer issues.

FireLizard

cPFence Ridiculously easy. Great!

Looks like AlphaVPS has 1 Gbps port. Maybe they used to offer 10 Gbps?

webdig

cPFence I can confirm, I did it that way as well and it worked perfectly. The process is simple and quick with Enhance, no complications.

prasad0889 My experience has been different. I have two backup servers from AlphaVPS, both in London, and failures are very rare. In my case, the service has been stable.

cPFence

FireLizard

It’s best to contact them directly and confirm.

prasad0889

Do not try alpha vps. Their storage vps are shit. Backups keep failing every time.

cPFence

prasad0889

Bulgaria DC? That one is poor. We’ve been using their Germany and USA DCs for years without a single issue.

prasad0889

webdig cPFence We had one in London and two in US, both were so bad that it wasn't possible to work with them. Backups failed daily. Transferring in and out the data took hours, for just a few hundred GB, and we moved away from them within a few days.

ronald

I tried a 1TB storage box with Alpha in one of their German datacenters. Support were quick to reply and I'm sure their more performant line of VPS are better, but the box I was on had high latency and were not up to the task. Support said it was meant for cold storage and that is fine for the price I paid, but it was not up to the standards I require a backup storage to be. I threw in the towel and migrated to another provider and it took me 6+ hours to transfer about 80 GB of data.

Not sure this is the right pick when (any) speed is of the essence.

ronald

I think a dedicated server is your best bet if speed and large storage should be an option.

webdig

prasad0889 I understand your experience was different, but in my case, it’s been the opposite.
I have two AlphaVPS backup servers in London, and backup failures are very rare. Transfer speeds have also been good for me, even with larger datasets.

I’ve also had a dedicated server at Hetzner just for backups, and it was problem after problem, with constant failures — so I know how frustrating this type of situation can be.

Which provider are you currently using for your backups?