The problem with Enhance licensing: Page 3 - Enhance Control Panel

The problem with Enhance licensing

wav3front

twest Tell me where I can get a cpanel server for $500/mo that comes with unlimited accounts.

Not cPanel specifically, but you see either “unlimited” or “300 websites” offerings. We just mentioned Hostinger two posts up (they do sell vps), but there are many others with similar offerings.

twest

wav3front comparing Enhance pricing scheme against a different product with completely different pricing scheme is illogical. For that matter you might as well compare Enhance pricing versus the price of cheeseburgers.

If your argument depends on comparing Enhance pricing to incomparable other panels, then you really have no argument at all and you should just go use those other panels for your imaginary problem.

When you compare Enhance pricing scheme with COMPARABLE other panel pricing schemes, Enhance is very economical. If I had a client that wanted a dedicated server with 1,000 accounts, then I'd put them on DA or some free panel, OR I'd charge them the cost of a 1,000 website package on Enhance.

cPFence

Hostinger offers 300 websites (addon domains) for $7.99, but with resources barely sufficient for a few sites. Many hosting companies take this approach, with some even offering "unlimited" websites (addon domains) while limiting the resources. As a result, users often end up adding only a few sites and get stuck with the resource limits.

You can achieve the same with Enhance.

For VPS packages, you can create Package 1 with 50 accounts, Package 2 with 75, or whatever number you choose and set the pricing with the margin of your choice. Users have the flexibility to upgrade or downgrade anytime. This is a common practice among hosting companies, and it can easily be implemented with Enhance / WHMCS as well. What's wrong with this setup ? Am I missing something ?

mike

cPFence Other companies have these fancy high numbers to attract customers but they can suck up the cost whatever they are offering. he can't. So he is looking for something fixed to stay on the safe side.

The guy just wants to use enhance because he likes it and still make some profit in a bullshit market of reselling 😁

webhostwizards

Scenario 1:
Setup a package that allows ONE website and 99 addon domains.
Sell the customer that package, which gives them access to one website and 99 addon domains (100 websites) all in the same container.

$5 a month for Enhance + server costs

Pricing page states, 'Included at no extra cost: Sub / addon / alias domain names'

Scenario 2:
Create a package with website/resource limits. This is just how it works with VPS, that's why people purchase them so they can host as many sites as the resources allow.

wav3front

mike The guy just wants to use enhance because he likes it and still make some profit in a bullshit market of reselling

perhaps you're right. It's not worth to offer reselling packages.

Vendoz

Pricing it's fine and it's really great to have no cost for the servers, and the cost "per site" are easy to pass on to the customer, also because there are no other license costs (having ubuntu instead of os like cloudlinux is a great plus, i came from Plesk and paid for plesk+cloudlinux to have resourse limit manager).

Enhance is objectively very economical, honestly I would prefer to see Enhance increases a llittle, like 0.20 per site istead of 0.15, but with more updates, with a lot of new features every month.

Good software must be paid for, and I am even willing to pay a little more to have better software updates. Than, after you have a good product, find a reselling plan it is not a problem.

Andrei

@"wav3front" Welcome to the web hosting business.

If you want to sell a managed service, price it accordingly. The key word here is managed. You cannot sell a managed service and price it like an unmanaged service.

Thus, your assumption that you must allow unlimited websites if you sell a VPS is incorrect.

That is the case ONLY if you provide unmanaged services. If that VPS is managed, you will have a cost per website. Even if the control panel license is free, you will still have a cost per website.

That is a given in this business: the more websites you add to your infrastructure, the more it will cost you because more websites mean more resources consumed, including time in the form of support tickets. So you should always price your services with that in mind.

You might ask, why do some companies offer cheap and unlimited plans? That's a good question. Corporations are playing a different game, and they design their offers to be "too good to be true" to attract a large number of customers. Some have about 50,000 new sign-ups per month; from those, they keep the ones that don't consume much and try to upsell, upgrade, or kick off the ones that consume. It's a gamble - they hope most customers will not consume the resource.

Try getting a plan with 300 websites and actually adding 300 websites. I guarantee they will try to upsell, upgrade, or make you quit. That's the game.

You can start to play this game, too, but you might not have the financial resources to compete with the big guys.

wav3front

Andrei thank you Andrei for all the information. I think you summed it up very nicely.

wav3front

Andrei You can start to play this game, too, but you might not have the financial resources to compete with the big guys.

Not really. As you said, I don't have the resources and... it's not a tactic that I would like to play. I aim for transparency.
I do realize however the kind of war that is going on in the web hosting business, seeing offers like this one: https://stablepoint.com/
makes me think that this business need aggressive marketing and offers like that to even stand a chance.

XN-Matt

twest Nobody is out there offering a VPS server with free (legitimate) cpanel/plesk/da license. That would be immensely stupid to do. Everyone sells the licenses separately.

Not the case, people should take care making such claims. There are many offering inclusive licences. Of course, there are differences as to what makes business sense vs actual offerings.

As the OP refers to VDS which some would argue are more aligned to full dedicated, essentially, it doesn't matter too much with cPanel's pricing. And with that, there are several well established providers offering dedicated servers with free/included cPanel licences with no account limit. (These are legit and confirmed via the cPanel verify tool.)

They will do either on the basis that yes, they'll get some people who load up servers to stupid degrees but the average number of servers will contain an average number of accounts.

After all, the licence holder can see what their whole estate is doing and based on what they've charged and what the existing licence holders are consuming, could be an easy money maker.

This is no different to unlimited anything; bandwidth on servers, disk on backup services, food at a buffet. You'll always get someone that takes the piss but largely, it'll average out with all the normal use customers.

However, I hate to agree with cPanel, as I have a huge hate for them, the market changed. Server performance changed. Charging someone the same for a clapped out four core server with 16GB vs a 96 core server with 256GB ram, just wasn't fair. I'm purposely ignoring that they simply wanted a bigger slice of the profit pie (don't get me started on WHMCS pulling the same move)

For the OP: Enhance fees are reasonable, reward growth and have no base charge unlike cPanel. So you can have one server with one account and pay pennies. With cPanel, one server with one account, is still a hefty $ cost.

Simply, there are a lot of free or one-time control panel options but YMMV and you may find, over time, you'll have to chop and change. Direct Admin have flat monthly cost similar to what cPanel used to do so if you are cost sensitive and want a fixed cost for your product, that would be a worth choice - but - it is based on a single server implementation (like cPanel).

wav3front

XN-Matt For the OP: Enhance fees are reasonable, reward growth and have no base charge unlike cPanel. So you can have one server with one account and pay pennies. With cPanel, one server with one account, is still a hefty $ cost.

agreed.

JohnB

wav3front I do realize however the kind of war that is going on in the web hosting business, seeing offers like this one: https://stablepoint.com/
makes me think that this business need aggressive marketing and offers like that to even stand a chanc

There will always be someone cheaper than you and they usually have more funds. Yet tons of companies survive by not being the cheapest. Idk stablepoint specifically but usually what they do is put memory/CPU limits that make it just not possible to run more than a couple of sites. While there is "unlimited" space and bandwidth, you will use very little due to the weak processing power. When you create a ticket about your 3rd site being slow they will say "wow you're gonna need to upgrade to our dedicated plan"

Support is a big selling point and ironically if your support is truly good people WILL talk about you and your company. For example I have recommended IOFlood many times even though they were not the fastest servers I've had or the best network or best prices but their support was truly incredible over and over again.

On the other hand I have negatively mentioned IONOS many times. They had faster servers and probably faster network. Their support annoyed me a few times but then completely fudged me once. It was their mistake. They had head manager call and apologize They refunded the last two months and gave me a 1 month free credit. I still left a month later and gave a very detailed and bad review.

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