New Roadmap: Page 7 - Enhance Control Panel

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Zoinkies

https://blog.jlcarveth.dev/docker_vs_systemd

Maybe useful to read.

thisisviniciusnascimento

DracoBlue Thanks for the tip, I was going to test it tonight.

ivansalloum

xyzulu From what I understand, backing up backups isn’t effective. I checked with Adam on this, and he confirmed there’s no real benefit to it. Enhance won’t recognize backups restored this way if you try to set up a new backup server to replace a failed one. Please let me know if I’ve misunderstood anything.

Rich

ivansalloum It might not export back to the backup server, which your correct being BTRFS snapshot based... however, having a full copy elsewhere is a mitigation strategy. There's nothing stopping you manually extracting the archives you've taken, rsyncing them to the app server and letting the backups resume as normal again.

This of course suggests both app server failed and backup server failed and your using your 3rd copy to recover from.

That said it could also be for long term storage, enhance backups have a limit before there recycled. You might need to recover an email that was in someones inbox from 6 months ago, that no longer lives on the email server, or within the backups that are shorter than that.

webhostwizards

DracoBlue Watch out for Wasabis 'Time deleted storage' terms. They charge to delete storage... Advertise $6usd per 1TB, but charge $30usd to delete retention backups......

DracoBlue

webhostwizards Exactly, I moved to storj.io, and the prices are much better.

adil

DracoBlue I moved to storj.io, and the prices are much better.

Their pricing is 4$ / 1 TB just to store it, and if you want to download it, it will cost you 7$ / 1 TB !?
I don't get it. isn't this more expensive ?

Hennie

DracoBlue

Hi, would you mind to share your settings, how to confugure storj for enhance backups? Thanks.

DracoBlue

adil Wasabi rounds it up to 1TB, even if you don't use it all. Storj charges based on actual usage. I was paying $7 for Wasabi, while for Storj, I’m paying $1.

adil

DracoBlue
I see, so you are not storing much, Yes indeed it will be cheaper on Storj.

slimx

DracoBlue Wasabi makes you pay that extra storing fee even when you delete files. So i got rid of it. My backups were going upto 5TB because of this.. 🙁

DracoBlue

adil Yes. 95GB backup from 3 days

slimx

So is there any update to the roadmap? any delays? are we still due for this month?

DracoBlue

slimx It is unlikely that version 12.0.0 will be released this month.

XN-Matt

slimx why not just read what the website says.

It’s not the end of the month.

Aliysa_Enhance

Hi all,

I'm afraid there will be a further delay to v12. We're still perfecting the update process from earlier versions of Enhance to 12.0.0 to ensure that it's completely safe and non-disruptive.

At the moment I'm unable to provide an accurate release date but from discussions It sounds like we're talking weeks. I'm hoping as more information is shared I'll be able to pin point a date to share with you.

Vendoz

Aliysa_Enhance Thanks for the communications and the details.

I understand the delay in doing an update that needs to be safe, but this will push forward any minor hotfixes or small features. I understand that the reengineering of v12 acts as a bottleneck, i understand that we cannot have OLS persistent if OLS service need to be changed, but not having a single update from August 1st dosn't help to digest the wait, not even the initial account setup popup fixed... overall I still remain positive, but I wanted to tell you my thoughts. Fingers crossed to see a great v12.

vsmbg

Aliysa_Enhance Hi Aliysa,

As a very community-oriented platform, I believe that you and we as the community, would love and will help us understand the situation if you can share a bit more developer details on what is happening and why this version is a few months behind. Letting us know some details will help us plan our own roadmaps.

Nickske00

Aliysa_Enhance Do I read this as 'upgrading from version 11.0.4 works, but upgrading from older versions can cause issues? If so, isn't it an option to only let people upgrade to 12 if they are on 11.0.4? I would also think there is an upgrade process in place that does all the old upgrades before going to 12....

This is the second time I see you guys delaying an upgrade because older upgrade paths are not running smooth.. This makes me wonder about the update/upgrade system you guys developed, now it looks like you need to start from scratch every time a new version is developed..

Shaijee

Aliysa_Enhance Is it possible in 2025?

ecknz

Aliysa_Enhance We're still perfecting the update process from earlier versions of Enhance to 12.0.0 to ensure that it's completely safe and non-disruptive.

@Aliysa_Enhance Thanks for the update, why not just block upgrades from earlier versions before v11.0.0 or which ever earlier versions are not working until you have perfected the upgrade progress and allow those who are on current versions to benefit from the fixes/improvements?

Nickske00

Aliysa_Enhance Three weeks have passed again, any update? 🙂

XN-Matt

Uh oh. Wait for the moans now.

Impatient folk who don’t understand development can incur unexpected delays….

DracoBlue

XN-Matt There’s not much to be surprised about, because it’s not just a one or two-month delay, but much, much more. We are also receiving conflicting information, first that it’s almost ready, then that it’s not, and so on.

hwcltjn

XN-Matt I believe those who express frustration, yet appreciate the product and understand development, "moan" because certain quick-win fixes and highly requested features are taking longer than expected.

blestaclub

DracoBlue Sounds like it's ready for new installs but issues with updating existing. I'd rather they delay than spend manhours fixing issues after releasing something not quite ready!

That would further slow everything down and is counter intuitive to what people actually want

cPFence

manu I am curious about 2 things here.

1) Will be containerization of websites which lead to isolation of websites be still there? (Forgive me if this is a dumb question)
2) Can there be a 11.X.X maintenance release which solves some most pressing bugs that forum has been voicing out in between or will it ruin everything?

1- Yes, websites will still be containerized natively, just as they are now, with no changes to this feature.

2- If the Enhance Team releases fixes for version 11 only, it means they would have to reapply those fixes for version 12, which could lead to duplicate work.

blestaclub Sounds like it's ready for new installs but issues with updating existing.

Exactly, the main issue lies in one line from the roadmap: “No data migration is required for this update.”

Nickske00 Do I read this as 'upgrading from version 11.0.4 works, but upgrading from older versions can cause issues? If so, isn't it an option to only let people upgrade to 12 if they are on 11.0.4? I would also think there is an upgrade process in place that does all the old upgrades before going to 12....

This is the second time I see you guys delaying an upgrade because older upgrade paths are not running smooth.. This makes me wonder about the update/upgrade system you guys developed, now it looks like you need to start from scratch every time a new version is developed..

The challenge isn’t for users on older versions but rather in updating from the latest v11 to v12. Transitioning servers from Docker-managed to systemd-managed services without a data migration step or downtime is quite complex.

I hope the Enhance Team considers opening up beta or even alpha phases to help with this transition.

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