Multiple IP Address per Server

PradeepC

PradeepC @Adam, Do you have any solution for this?

Adam

The VPS solution will work even if the customer removes and re-adds the website (if you create a dedicated subscription). I don't have a solution if you manually change the A record except to inform the customer of the IP and ask them to update it after re-adding the website.

PradeepC

Adam The smaller VPS use some disk space for OS, and then there are cost of other licenses as well, like LiteSpeed, cPGuard, etc, which can be brought down if we can provision IP address per account as per requirement.

prasad0889

If you could add this as a feature request.
+1 for this feature.

xyzulu

This would go against the guidelines for using ipv4 addresses. Why do you need more than one ip address per server?

PradeepC

xyzulu I cannot see a guideline where this is mentioned. If a full justification is provided, then there is no issue with providing multiple IPs per server.

xyzulu

But why do you need to? Isn’t a single IP ok?

PradeepC

There is some business related reason behind this, that I am not comfortable to explain at the moment.

jared

+1 for this.
At commercial shared hosting, default IP is usually in various spam blacklists just due to the number of websites hosted and possible spam outbreaks because of malware etc.
So the option to sell a dedicated IP to the customer who wants independent mail reputation, is necessary.

cosmoshosting

jared Just remember that a dedicated IP for the website has nothing to do with email deliverability or blacklists.
It's the mail-server the email is sent out of which is everything.

Seen way to many provider market a dedicated IP as the catch-all for fixing everything from email-deliverability, SEO to page loading. My biggest regret in life is not being a octopus and being able to slap 8 of these people at once!

jared

cosmoshosting sure, I mean to give customer a dedicated address for all his services - web, mail etc. There is no problem to set up mail server to use particular address for domain - and no problem to serve HTTP from it.

Dedicated address itself isn't a silver bullet, but it can make customer to be the only person who has impact on this IP reputation. Sure I'm talking about case when whole hoster's subnet isn't blacklisted. 🙂

jb007

cosmoshosting My biggest regret in life is not being a octopus and being able to slap 8 of these people at once!

😂 I'm gonna use this one!

cosmoshosting

jared If you are setting them up as a VPS as opposed to Shared Hosting, fair call. But that VPS will have its own dedicated IP and the functionality exists today.

Even then the $10/mo would be far better invested into a third-party smtp service (SMTP2GO/Brevo) or in the case of shared hosting, Mail Channels IMO. Unfortunately as you have pointed many mail providers (O365 the main one) simply range block entire ASNs from all the major VPS providers.

IP reputation in the past used to big thing, however many reasons of why it used to be done are simply not true anymore (dedicated IP's for SSL pre SNI).

You are a far braver man than me letting users send out of port 25 on their VPS and providing them email-deliverability support!

jared

cosmoshosting there are lot of customers who are just not skilled enough to run VPS. Usually, they are regular SMB and they want to get everything in a single and simple box instead of buying several different services. They have no sysadmin to run VPS but they need their business emails to be delivered.

So our current solution for them is just a dedicated address as a paid addon for hosting. And from our side, it is much easier to manage several hosting servers than to build and support dozens of VPS for them (and they are not ready to pay for VPS support too 🙂). So we implemented this in Plesk and it is really useful in that case.

P.S. Also, there are adepts of placing their websites on different addresses - we dropped attempts to explain them it does not impact on anything, but if they are ready to pay for that - why not? 🙂

caterdata

FabioP

+1 for me.

Abdeen

mah1952

Adam

How to do this ? sometimes the client wants a dedicated ip ? how to give him this option ? lots of clients ask for this.