Stress Test

Adam

For there to be such a discrepancy in performance (all other things being equal) then something must be being cached on the Runcloud instance which isn't being cached on the Enhance instance, despite there being no caching plugins installed.

Tweaks like opcode caching do make a bit of a difference to PHP performance (you can toggle this under "developer settings") but not enough to account for a 10 fold difference.

Zoinkies

Adam any eta on lsconfig? It’s possibly one of the most important things we need far ahead of 90% on the roadmap.

AdamM

Adrien That's why it bothers me too.
I'm wondering if there's a better way to solve this.

Adam

Zoinkies

Current ETA is late March. I'm aware this is behind the roadmap but we need to make sure it's absolutely production ready before releasing the feature.

Zoinkies

Adam Strufe, it went from February, to end of February to beginning of March to end of March 🙁

AdamM

Adam Maybe it will be possible to release the permanent saving of the settings made in the litespeed admin panel faster? Because now they just reset.

Zoinkies

AdamM It’s this is causing us issues 🙁

Adam

AdamM

It's the same feature. LiteSpeed config is built from our own structured data - it's what allows you to switch so easily between Apache, LiteSpeed, OpenLiteSpeed and (soon) Nginx.

AdamM

Zoinkies @Zoinkies
By the way. Do you know if it is possible to get a cheaper litespeed license?Buy from some partner with discount or something

Zoinkies

AdamM To my knowledge no, you can bulk discount but that’s 20+ licenses and it’s around £2k per month or something maddening. Edit: I know they’re increasing prices soon.

Adrien

AdamM I chose the ownership option. It made more sense in my financials, and I believe Litespeed is here to stay. Otherwise, the monthly license cost was too high.

Adrien

Zoinkies In your dreams only ;-)
In LS reality, one license = 1 server.

Zoinkies I know they’re increasing prices soon.

This is bad news. I wasn't expecting that, considering how expensive it already is.

Adrien

@PradeepC @Adam @AdamM
Fortunately, I had saved all of my Loader.io tests from the previous two years.
I have a small client running under woo, and I was able to benchmark. I have just conducted the test on Enhance. Servers are diff. The site is identical.

RC 5950X. 0 - 5000 clients over 1 min
Results: https://bit.ly/2XPCkGk

Enhance 7950X. 0 - 5000 clients over 1 min
Results: https://bit.ly/3IXfUYJ

@PradeepC Would you mind redoing the test?
Something isn't right. A 10-fold difference deserves to be investigated.

We should look into this more and test it with more people in this group so that we can use everyone's knowledge.

Adrien

AdamM I did. Maybe you missed my post above.

Adrien RC 5950X. 0 - 5000 clients over 1 min
Results: https://bit.ly/2XPCkGk

Enhance 7950X. 0 - 5000 clients over 1 min
Results: https://bit.ly/3IXfUYJ

At the moment, the test failed on Enhance. Yes, I'm using Litespeed cache plugin.

Zoinkies

Adam any chance you can release a version of the LS config that saves permanently without ui?

Zoinkies

Adrien on the ownership version can you use it on as many servers as you want?

mendozal

Adrien @Zoinkies I recently moved to enhance self hosted (I was using a cPanel reseller account with Litespeed built in).

In your oppinion, Is it bad/less performant just to use OLS instead of LS? Considering the other option is Apache.

Adrien

@mendozal

mendozal In your oppinion, Is it bad/less performant just to use OLS instead of LS? Considering the other option is Apache.

I had some bad experiences with OLS in the past on RC, but they've made some improvements. It was with headers and UTM tag handling, for example, when it's appended to the URL for your marketing campaigns. The UTM tag wasn't passed.

OLS won't give you these features:

full .htaccess support and its caching
SSL Offloading
A more powerful cache engine
High performance mod_security engine
WordPress Brute Force Attacks Protection
Zero downtime server software upgrade
Version management
ESI support
Redis mass hosting

I have never conducted a serious benchmark between OLS and Enterprise, so I can't say if one is faster.

fbaye

mendozal NGINX competes with LS when configured properly.

mendozal

Adrien I see. I'm currently using OLS, but my client's websites are low traffic ones.

I had issues with .htaccess support and Wordfence wordpress plugin. But for now is manageable.

I just hope I won't hit any of the other missing features. I don't want to pay LS's per server license since it's completely in opposition to Ehnance's per website policy.

fbaye

I managed to get 18k clients per second with Enhance on PHP7.4.

https://imgur.com/a/kHyAOsJ

In fairness, on my cPanel stack I did get 27k clients per second before.