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digitalexpanse

Darren thanks, to clarify.
The issue is focused on restoring from manual backups if the primary server is down. Even as it stands now I'm not entirely sure how to restore X websites from backup to a completely new server.

do this manually, no clear instructions on how
expand the restore option in enhance, allowing me to select any server

Darren

I think what you're describing is the disaster recovery option, roadmapped for May.

digitalexpanse

@Darren @Adam, hopefully, but in the meantime, if a server dies, what's our SOP here to restore websites to an alternate server?

Darren

If a server completely died, you could use the existing backups to rsync or scp the backup data over to a new live server (either Enhance or any other panel).

There's no automated tools to do this yet though, that's what the Disaster Recovery feature will enable you to do.

PradeepC

Hello @Darren, @Adam,

What are your thoughts on this staging to production and vice versa thing I have suggested?

Darren

I think your idea is good. I think we understand that the staging feature at the moment doesn't really do what is expected of it in terms of the functionality so it is something we will re-visit to work more smoothly and in the way that people intend.

prasad0889

I would like to suggest a few changes in the roadmap if possible, and get a community feedback on the opinion.

IPv6 Support can be moved to August or September, not much needed.
V3 cPanel Importer can be moved to August as the current importer is good.
cPanel user driven website migrations - fetch from remote serve can be moved to August/September.

What should be done before?

Staging to Live and Live to staging, not only for websites but also for addon domains.
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MediaServe

prasad0889 Everyone will have different ideas. Are you through your cPanel migration? I'm not, and there are still many problems the cPanel Importer or Enhance in general.

DNS records provided in the cPanel backup are still not restored. Enhance only creates the records it needs, and it does not even restore external MX records so email hosting provided externally is broken unless manually corrected.
cPanel backups from services using mod_lsapi for PHP require .htaccess files modifed to remove the mime_module section require by cPanel for mod_lsapi support.
The cPanel Importer frequently chokes on MariaDB databases restoring to Enhance's MySQL 8.

This continues to make cPanel Migration a PITA that still isn't workable for me.

Besides that, I find other problems like:

Missing MySQL permissions even when all permissions are checked make mysqldump attmempts fail with "Error: 'Access denied; you need (at least one of) the PROCESS privilege(s) for this operation' when trying to dump tablespaces"
When you can do this at the command line, the database download doesn't provide evidence that anything is in process, and doesn't complete the download of a large database.
LiteSpeed apparently is not able to disable or suspend websites!

All in all each migration attempt reveals new problems, and I'm stymied.

For these reasons I object to the idea "V3 cPanel Importer can be moved to August as the current importer is good."

WebInfra

Adam At the moment the method for this is to move the existing website to a new domain for example old.shop.com then "push live" the staging website onto the original live domain.

What some customers have made clear to us is that this doesn't suit their workflow and instead they want the ability to copy the contents (files and database) of a staging website (or even another live website) to an existing live website, overwriting the current data but preserving the source website in place. It's almost a reverse clone. We are working on this feature.

Will this be under the following roadmapped item?

V1 Ability to push the contents of a staging website to a live website without having to delete the staging site.

Aliysa_Enhance

WebInfra Yes it is. This is currently roadmapped for Feb.

Aliysa_Enhance

WebInfra Yes, you will be able to do this. From what I can see in the logged feature request/ticket the team are working on, it's exactly as Adam described.

WebInfra the ability to copy the contents (files and database) of a staging website (or even another live website) to an existing live website, overwriting the current data but preserving the source website in place. It's almost a reverse clone. We are working on this feature.

slimx A fix for this will be with you much sooner - it's in the next release 10.2 🙂

WebInfra

Aliysa_Enhance Thanks. To confirm, will this allow us to copy the contents (files and database) of a staging website to an existing live website, overwriting the data of the live website?

slimx

Also pleaes don't forget the HOME URL issue.
It's so annoying lol every single site pushed live have to manually go in and update it otherwise its stuck on the staging domain

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